Friday, June 11, 2010
Crow Update, June 6
Friday, June 4, 2010
Crow Update
Hello, this is John Kangas with a Crow Gliding Area update for June 2nd, 2010. Thus update is about public records we have attained, current news about the Crow Gliding Area, and a meeting scheduled later this week with the City.
As mentioned in our last update, we are exercising our rights to gain access to public records. Regretfully, we are not liking what we are seeing. We never completely understood why our Park and Recreation folks never moved forward after our initial intro meeting. This last week we received material that shows that Boise was planning on sale of the property to Fish and Game long before Boise even owned it. In other words, they were just going to buy and sale the property on behalf of Fish and Game. The City just never shared that detail with us. This is probably why Park and Recreation left us in limbo.
Contained in the information we attained, is a draft memorandum of understanding that shows that the City and Fish and Game were planning a interim management plan that would not allow most outdoor recreational activities on the property. Fish and Game only estimated $2500 dollars a year to manage the property. It looks like that in order to meet that low estimate, anything other than walking was going to be prohibited. This would include Bicycling and Horses. Off leash dogs were also going to be prohibited on the property. In the documents, Park and Recreation Director Jim Hall and Chairman of the Open Space Advisory Committee Chairman Chuck McDevitt indicated to the Fish and Game folks that our quiet Gliding should not be allowed. In stark contrast they then discussed use of short range weapons and fire arm safety at Hammer Flats. It seems clear that Fish and Game always wanted to preserve a hunting option for the property, and by using deer habitat as the "magic words" they could convince the city to limit other activities that would eventually burden their core mission statement (i.e. Growing and Harvesting game.)
We received a more positive note from Jeff Gildehaus a long time glider instructor and full time outdoorsman who flew the Crow Gliding Area for many years. Jeff says this about the Crow. "The fact that 35+ years of flying and the wildlife has been there all along speaks volumes about the compatibility."
Public pressure for the City to do the right thing and open "our land" to compatible use continues to grow. Most folks know in their hearts that we can have lovely deer habitat in areas that people can enjoy too. News channel 7 broadcast a story about the proposed sale to Fish and Game last week. http://www.ktvb.com/news/local/Boise-to-sell-700-acres-on-Hammer-Flat-to-Fish-and-Game-95063454.html
In the interview Mayor Bieter said..."Geographically, it's a pretty important area for hang gliding and we'll certainly work with all the parties as much as we can to accommodate that." The Mayor stated that hunting would not be allowed by the City as terms of the sale to Fish and Game. The story grew more interesting when the Governor of Idaho later said on talk radio that the State would not buy the property unless Hunting was allowed.
Here is an aerial shot of our hill looking NW. Because the Crow Gliding Area is on the city/people side of the Hammer Flats property, next to the existing homes in the area, it represents an ideal buffer and brush fire safety zone for all of the deer brush that Fish and Game plans on planting. It would also be an ideal area to locate a small parking area for our activity and other outdoor recreation going into the Hammer Flats area and up the Cobbs ridge to rivers trail.
This coming Friday, the City has scheduled a meeting between the Idaho Hang Gliding Association and the Chief of Staff for the Mayor along with the President of the City Council. We look forward to the meeting. We know that our Gliding activity is compatible with almost any outdoor management plan, and any willing agency, as we have demonstrated all across our great nation. We believe that we can partner and we are ready to roll up our sleeves and put together a great plan.
Looks like we are making a difference folks. Remember, democracy will only work if we participate. Please continue to call and write to your elected officials. Please Call Mayor Biter's hotline at (208) 384-4404 and share with him how you feel. It looks like he may be sensitive to saving a great outdoor gliding legacy as he works in "Making Boise the most livable city in the country."
Keep good thoughts about saving the Crow Gliding Area, we will see what the Mayor's Office has to say on Friday.
Blaine, Lisa, Patrick, Aaron, and John,
Sunday, May 30, 2010
Crow Flying Site Overview
Crow Flying Area from Aaron Beck on Vimeo.
and an awesome day of boating around the Boise Valley in go-anywhere-you-want conditions on Sunday at 8th Street.
"The whole valley is lifting." -Mark D.
Congrats to Lewer for his first successful thermal flight.
Thursday, May 27, 2010
Finally allowed a voice?
"Geographically, it (the Crow Gliding Area) is a pretty important area for Hang Gliding. We'll certainly work with all the parties as much as we can to accomodate that (access)."
"We'll work with them with access as much as is appropriate..."
--Boise Mayor Dave Bieter, May 27 2010. Channel 7 news at six on air interview.
Not quite yet a sigh of relief, but it sounds as if we might finally have an opportunity to sit down, speak with and engage with the City of Boise.
Be ever positive with one another and everyone else who is a non-flyer.
We pilots know that we participate in a non-motorized, open space and geographically dependent activity that is compatible with the City of Boise's desires. Through first hand experience at the Crow when vultures join us at the ridge, or red-tails hook up with us in a thermal or when deer or antelope pay us no more mind than a skyward glance then turn back to grazing on bunch-grasses we know that there is no substantiated reason to exclude us from the air.
What a wonderful world and time we live in - when we humans can soar wing-tip to wing-tip with the "real" pilots of the world.
Still, nothing is known. Things can change daily. Hold together. Hold the high ground. Be a positive force in the world.
Sunday, May 23, 2010
Saturday, May 22, 2010
Crow Flying Area Update, May 21, 2010
Are we being hammered at Hammer Flats?
Back in 2001 Boise voters passed a $10 million dollar open space serial levy to do five specific things. By statute, serial levies must do that which they say they will do. When we voted, our ballots stated that "approved levy funds will: Protect water quality; Preserve wildlife habitat; Provide increased recreational areas for walking, biking, and other outdoor activities; Limit overdevelopment and traffic; and Protect natural vegetation that prevents mudflows and washouts."
This spring, Boise spent the last $4 million dollars of our trust fund buying the 700 acre Hammer Flats property including the Crow Gliding Area just above the Crow Inn. Immediately and without any public meetings or input, the City announced that Hammer Flats would be managed by IDFG (Idaho Department of Fish and Game.) One IDFG manager was then quoted saying this about Hammer Flats "if people are thinking in terms of additional recreational opportunities, they're probably going to be disappointed." Some reports stated that no new trails and roads would be built. Other reports indicated that even existing roads and trails could be closed. One thing is for certain, our expectations and our open space is being spun by Boise City and the IDFG.
The Fish and Game mission statement reads "All wildlife.. shall be preserved, protected, perpetuated, and managed. for. continued supplies of such wildlife for hunting, fishing and trapping." In other words, IDFG grows fish and animals so that they can be harvested. Nothing is said about managing people and outdoor activities.
What we don't know; Why are Boise hikers, runners, bicyclists, hang gliders, climbers, equestrians, dog owners, and other outdoor enthusiasts are being ignored by the City in favor of IDFG and their mission statement to grow and harvest animals? Why is Hammer Flats not being integrated into the Boise Park and Recreation system where its many uses including winter habitat can be balanced? Just who in Boise City is making the decisions to ignore the citizens, and the letter and intent of the serial levy?
What we know: The final half of our Boise open space trust fund is now being earmarked to benefit the IDFG. Private meetings are now being held between IDFG and Boise City. Outdoor user groups have not been contacted by Boise City, including those who have expressed a desire to utilize the open space at Hammer Flats. No public meetings have occurred. The first time "we the people" will have an opportunity to comment "on the deal" will be when the City Council votes on the matter after IDFG and Boise City finish their private meetings. IDFG has already locked the gates to our land and has posted their signs prior to any agreement. IDFG will use No Trespassing Laws to enforce "their" lands.
John Kangas,
Lifetime Boise Resident and
Tuesday, May 18, 2010
Saturday May, 15
Thursday, May 13, 2010
Statesman Article
Crow Flying Area Update, March 13, 2010
To see more details and confirm this group invitation, follow the link below:
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- The Crow Gliding Area is one of the things that make Boise a special place to live. Beautiful Gliders have graced the Skyline above the road to Lucky Peak for 35 years.
- Gliding silently is a symbol of adventure and freedom.
- The Crow Gliding Area is the finest little gliding hill in the area. Many Local Pilots learned to fly at the Crow. There is nothing like it in Boise. It can not be replaced.
- The Crow Gliding Area is just minutes away, much like the trail heads at 8th street. We can fly the Crow after work and even during our lunch hour without burning a lot of gas. Accessing other hills in the treasure valley require an hour of driving.
- We have flown the Crow for 35 years with private land ownership. Now the city buys the Crow with our open space trust money and we are locked out. Is this why people are holding tea parties?
- If city's like Los Angeles, San Diego, San Francisco, Seattle, Salt Lake, Missoula and Butte have Gliding Areas like the Crow then why not Boise?
- The City should ensure that the planning process about Hammer Flats and the Crow Gliding Area is open and transparent, rather than making deals with IDFG behind closed doors and without public input.
- The taxpayers of Boise did not buy property for IDFG and their special interest. We will not vote for another Levy and to raise our taxes if this is how our money is going to be managed.
- Open space planners need to do their job and find a way to balance issues and provide access for all outdoor enthusiast, including gliders, who enjoy open space.
- The Crow Gliding Area is on the western edge of the property and adjoins the existing homes in the area.
- The Crow Gliding Area helps to form an important buffer between the neighborhood and the preferred wildlife habitat located deeper into Hammer Flats and away from the people.
- Our activity has very low impact upon the land and is silent.
SUMMARY
Proposed Open Space Protection Trust Fund would acquire open space and natural areas in the Boise Foothills. Approved levy funds will:
- Protect water quality;
- Preserve wildlife habitat;
- Provide increased recreational areas for walking, biking, and other outdoor activities;
- Limit overdevelopment and traffic, and
- Protect natural vegetation that prevents mudflows and washouts.
Buying open spaces for public use will balance private development in the
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City Council Members Elaine Clegg eclegg@cityofboise.org David Eberle deberle@cityofboise.org | |||||||
People who work for us For information about City Council Meetings The Boss who answers to the Mayor. Her Job is to strike a Balance Between User Groups of our outdoor areas. Politely encourage her to do her job. Finally, if anyone encounters a tasty bit of intelligence, please forward it to j_kangas@msn.com or leave a message at 208-407-7174. Boise really is a small town. The Crow is worth saving. Make calls to each other with ideas. Make contacts, generate BUZZ, and forward information on to our team of volunteers. ................................................................. We will leave you with an important quote that Aaron Beck found and passes along: Ed Abby's quote, and the case for Alan Paylor's spring fling at King: One final paragraph of advice: do not burn yourselves out. Be as I am — a reluctant enthusiast... a part-time crusader, a half-hearted fanatic. Save the other half of yourselves and your lives for pleasure and adventure. It is not enough to fight for the land; it is even more important to enjoy it. While you can. While it’s still here. So get out there and hunt and fish and mess around with your friends, ramble out yonder and explore the forests, climb the mountains, bag the peaks, run the rivers, breathe deep of that yet sweet and lucid air, sit quietly for a while and contemplate the precious stillness, the lovely, mysterious, and awesome space. Enjoy yourselves, keep your brain in your head and your head firmly attached to the body, the body active and alive, and I promise you this much; I promise you this one sweet victory over our enemies, over those desk-bound men and women with their hearts in a safe deposit box, and their eyes hypnotized by desk calculators. I promise you this; You will outlive the bastards. Photo by Aaron Beck at the Crow Gliding Area Thanks, Blaine, Lisa, Patrick, Aaron, and John, | |||||||
Wednesday, May 12, 2010
Open Letter To Mayor Beiter
April 27, 2010
David H. Bieter
Mayor, City of Boise
Dear Mr. Mayor,
My name is John Kangas. I am a life time resident of Boise, airline captain, aviation buff, aerial photographer, and outdoor enthusiast. A couple of years ago, I worked in the filming of an Outdoor Idaho program about Hang Gliding in Idaho. Perhaps you saw the program, and felt some of the passion of soaring in our fabulous State? Here is a link to the segment if you missed it. www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1085337546075
If you ever have a chance to try soaring, whether in a Sailplane or a Hang Glider it is truly an experience you will never forget.
For the last 35 years, since their invention by NASA engineer Francis Rogallo, Hang Gliders have quietly graced the Boise skyline above a little foothill just north of the Crow Inn. Gliding enthusiasts in the valley call this hill "The Crow" and it is very dear to our hearts.
The Crow Hill is very close to our homes. We can fly in the evening after work. Many locals learned to fly at the Crow over the years as it has a near perfect slope, and faces NW into a gentle afternoon and evening breeze. There is a wide open landing area at the base of the hill. Often, folks in the local neighborhood sit in their yards and watch us. There is nothing like it near Boise. For those of us who love to experience "bird like flight" with the wind in our faces, or just watch the beautiful gliders, the Crow is one of the things that makes Boise a special place.
Since the early 70's we flew at the Crow with only a handshake agreement with the private owners. We were always respectful of their wishes, appreciative of their gift, and good stewards of their land. We always knew that development could close the Crow forever. We held our breath as development of the foothills moved closer. We enjoyed every moment as the years past. The most recent private owners met with us to discuss preserving open space in the development so our activity could continue.
Needless to say, we were thrilled when we learned of the City's purchase of the Hammer Flats property including the Crow Hill. We formed a small working group and met with BPR (Boise Parks and Recreation.) We came to the meeting with the President of the USHPA (United States Hang Gliding and Paragliding Association) representing 10,000 members. She is a remarkable and very talented Boise resident. We came to the meeting with the President of the Idaho Hang Glider Association representing 150 active members. He learned to fly at the Crow Hill. He is a lifetime Boise resident with a strong passion for Hang Gliding. I brought aerial photography, and experience in land use planning and surveying. We all came prepared to roll up our sleeves and to partner with our City in preserving a legacy open space gliding area.
During the introductory meeting with BPR and IDFG (Idaho Fish and Game) we shared the very low impact our sport has to the environment and our experiences with wildlife while soaring. Most of us have had hawks and eagles join up and fly with us. I shared a story about soaring above a grazing deer at Mt. Sentinel in Missoula that continued feeding completely undisturbed by my silent glider just a hundred feet overhead. I have also flown over elk and big horned sheep herds in Idaho that took no mind to my presence. We also communicated to the representatives that we had extensive expertise in our organizations, including wildlife biology, that could share information regarding our activity relative to deer and other wildlife behavior.
Official landing area below Mt Sentinel next to the University Golf Course in Missoula
At the meeting, we shared that our national organization has extensive experience with all types of agencies and municipalities. We partner the famous gliding site above Missoula at Mt. Sentinel with the Forrest Service and the University of Montana. This includes key access to a normally closed USFS access road to the top of the mountain. We fly in Yosemite National Park under a working agreement with the National Park Service. We have public gliding parks in Salt Lake City at Point of the Mountain, Famous Torrey Pines in San Diego, and even in a city park on a beach in Los Angeles. Since our basic need is only for open space and a hill facing into the wind, associated costs and infrastructure are always very low. Often they only amount to windsocks which we provide. Since our introductory meeting with BPR, we have been prepared to answer questions and provide follow-up information including details of our self regulation, and the extensive insurance provisions that we bring to official gliding sites.
My Son’s first flight at the Dockweiler Beach Hang Gliding Park in Los Angeles.
We waited patiently for follow up questions after the meeting, but regretfully the calls never came. When our group made inquiry, we were told that the management plan was being formulated interagency, between BPR and IDFG. We have since learned that a closed door meeting has already occurred and that we will probably not be allowed to fly at the Crow Hill. The IDFG has already locked us out and posted signs. This action is prior to any formal management agreement being reached. Meeting minutes from the closed door meeting have not been made available to us.
Mr. Mayor this seems almost surreal. Something is wrong. Does Idaho Fish and Game answer to the people of Boise or to outside interests? Where is the connection between authority and responsibility? No public hearings. No transparency. Just a closed door meeting in which some deal is made and locks and signs are put up. Our serial levy was not presented in this fashion. The official ballot said we were going to "preserve wildlife habitat" and "provide increased recreational areas." Nothing was said about locking out compatible uses.
Paraglider Sunset at The Crow
Perhaps in our enthusiasm of a fortuitous purchase, and our desire to minimize costs, we have overlooked basic principles. Hikers have a place to walk. Bikers have a place to ride. Lovely gliders should continue to fly down a little hill in a beautiful city called Boise.
Please look into this matter and contact me at your earliest convenience.
Sincerely,
Captain John Kangas
Proud Citizen of Boise, and member of the Idaho Hang Gliding Association and USHPA
----- Original Message -----
From: Mayor@cityofboise.org
To: JOHN A KANGAS ; Julia Grant
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 4:23 PM
Subject: J Kangas Hang Gliding at Hammer Flats "Crow Hill" 4/27/10
Dear John,
Thank you for your interest in the long-term management of Hammer Flat. I appreciate you voicing your concerns. Keeping the main reason we purchased the property in mind, protecting the property as wildlife habitat, Boise City has just begun to work with IDFG on the formal management agreement for the property. We have heard from a number of Hammer Flat neighbors and other interested parties why their particular recreational use should be allowed on Hammer Flat. I will ask Julia Grant, The Foothills Open Space Management Director to be sure to send you a copy of the agreement in a month or so once it is finalized along with a brief explanation on the thought process.
Sincerely,
David H. Bieter
Mayor
From: JOHN A KANGAS
To: David Bieter
Cc: Julia Grant ; Lisa Tate ; Blaine Perkins ; Jim Hall
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: J Kangas Hang Gliding at Hammer Flats "Crow Hill" 4/27/10
May 12th, 2010
An open letter to
David H. Bieter
Mayor, City of Boise
Thank you for your prompt reply about a plan for Hammer Flats and the Crow Gliding Area. It is the top down decision making policy that concerns us. Despite our offer of assistance from local, and national hang gliding organizations, we have not heard back from the folks who are making the decisions. One gets a sense that hang gliders and other outdoor enthusiasts are going to be excluded from the final plan. Thrown under the bus so to speak. We are hearing rumors that fast and quiet deals are being made that will basically lock everyone out. Hope we are wrong. Makes for a sad story. We have enjoyed the Crow Gliding Area for 35 years with private owners of the land. Boise buys it with our money and the citizens who voted for the levy are locked out. Perhaps this is why folks are holding tea parties.
Mr. Mayor, we know that good decisions do not begin with a solution, but rather in drawing deeply from a pool of options. Hammer Flats and the and the Crow Gliding Area has been purchased with serial levy funds that promised to do 5 important things. They are; protect water quality, preserve wildlife habitat, limit overdevelopment and traffic, protect natural vegetation, and provide increased recreational areas for walking, biking, and other outdoor activities.
In reading the ballot, we find the statement that "Approved levy funds will:" do the 5 listed items. We can not see that these 5 items are mutually exclusive. As in, the City will pick and choose and maybe only do one of these things with your money and exclude all other stated benefits. In retrospect, we do not recall anyone from the City stating, either prior to or after the election, that the money would be used to lock the people out, give short term control to IDFG (Idaho Department of Fish and Game), and then later perhaps sell the property to IDFG so they can open a special hunting area.
Mr. Mayor, "We the people" of Boise voted for a marvelous open space initiative that would balance many important outdoor values. We did not raise our taxes to buy property for the Idaho Department of Fish and Game and the special interest group that they serve. We are hearing that outdoor enthusiasts, who would be locked out from Hammer Flats and the Crow Gliding Area by IDFG, include neighbors, hikers, climbers, bicyclists, equestrians, and the hang gliders who have flown here for 35 years. Please stop the closed door discussions about a memorandum of understanding with IDFG until public input from all interested parties and a comprehensive and inclusive plan can be considered. Please consider the wishes of the people of Boise rather than the narrow focus and desires of an outside state agency.
As indicated in our previous correspondence, IDFG has locked the gates and posted signs. Prior to any public meetings and any formal agreement, we are now apparently "locked out" from the Crow Gliding Area and our open space. Mr. Mayor, we believe that the process and direction our City is taking regarding Hammer Flats and the Crow Gliding Area is violation of the letter and the intent of the Open Space Serial Levy. From this point forward, we respectfully request that business involving Hammer Flats and the Crow Gliding Area be conducted in an open, honest and transparent fashion, rather than in secret behind closed doors.
Sincerely,
John Kangas,
Spokesperson -Idaho Hang Gliding Association
cc Boise City Council, Foothills Conservation Advisory Committee, Boise Parks and Recreation Commissioners, Open Spaces and Trails Advisory Board, Jim Hall, Julia Grant, Blaine Perkins, Lisa Tate, Area Media Contacts, and others
Monday, March 15, 2010
Crow Inn/Cobb's Knob Access meeting
Tuesday March 16
5:30 p.m.
Hyde Park Pub
1501 North 13th Street
Boise, ID 83702
United States
(208) 336-9260
What I hope happens at this meeting:
- that we can identify 2 people that we all mutually respect to act as our point pilots
- that those 2 individuals have the most access-issue experience of the group - (preferably with free flight access experience)
- that some of us (myself included) can put aside certain personal opinions and ideas that could hurt us as a whole
- that there is enough beer on tap
Tuesday, March 9, 2010
Boise City now owns The Crow ridge soaring site!
Boise's Crow Inn ridge soaring site is now owned by the city of Boise! http://www.publicbroadcasting.net/idaho/news.newsmain/article/1/0/1621597/Local.News/Boise.Buys.Hammer.Flat Not to be developed into houses and strip malls
Aaron Beck Now that it is publicly owned and not slated for development do we pilots continue the status quo or should we look into options through the foundation for free flight? Utah pilots? People with experience? Ideas?
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